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Among my oldest photographs is this fascinating image, probably from 1907. The pretty girl marked with an X is my lovely grandma, or Nanna as we called her, who would then have been 11 or 12. I previously wrote about her here.
I do not know the names of the others in the picture. The surly young lad lounging suspiciously against the wall behind them would probably be questioned these days, but that is just how ordinary people would have looked in their working clothes then.
Like her father and many others at that time, Nanna was an active churchgoer: Methodists. The group are collecting for charity: the placard shows pictures of impoverished children, some with crutches, and says “Twelve branches - London, Provinces, Canada” followed by the names of clergymen. “Please help the children to-day”. The light-coloured box appears to say “Children’s Home Appeal 1907”.
I can identify the location precisely. This second picture, also from the early 20th century, shows it to be at the top of the underpass - we called it the subway - outside Goole railway station. I am informed that the chimney in the background was that of Short’s ginger beer factory in Pasture Road, long gone.
The pub on the far left is The Station Hotel. This can be seen more clearly in these two later photographs from the 1950s or 1960s judging by the cars. In one, the wall inside the top of the subway is visible. There was also another subway at the other side of the road. Pedestrians did not always use them, though.
Together, the photographs identify the location of my grandma’s group beyond doubt.
Today, the subways remain, but the railway station (I refuse to call it a train station) has been rebuilt, the sidings and goods yard sanitised and pedestrianised, and the railway gates replaced by half-barriers. The Station Hotel, a scene of my misspent youth, has been converted into flats. The part of the wall where the young lad stood remains, but beyond, where my grandma’s group were, has been demolished.
No one from the 1907 picture can still be alive. My grandma died aged 58 in 1954. She would have been a strong positive influence; she was caring, intelligent, easy to talk with, and full of sound advice. Her mother died in 1910 when she was 13, she lost friends during the First World War when she was in service in Southport, Lancashire, she brought my father through polio and his sister through rheumatic fever which left her with a heart condition, and lived through the Second World War. Apart from possibly a couple of quite distant cousins, I am now the only one who can directly remember her, and they are only vague impressions.
Lastly I ask - now old and chill -
If aught of her remain unperished still;
And find, in me alone, a feeble spark,
Dying amid the dark.
I find the end of "His Immortality" hard to work out but in its entirety the poem is desperately sad. The narrator, perhaps Thomas Hardy himself, seems to be struggling to understand what death means and whether or not the spirit continues when we have gone.
ReplyDeleteThanks for the interesting glimpse into the Goole of yesteryear. By the way, is someone from Goole called a Goolie?...Oh, I just googled it. It seems that "Goolie" means testicle. Sorry if I have caused offence - it was unintended.
I struggle to understand it too. There was an item about 270 million-year-old dinosaur bones in the news today.
DeleteSurly lad has a very aggressive pose. I am the family guardian of many memories, but no one seems very interested in learning about family history, including its secrets. The knowledge will die with me. Oral history is usually very inaccurate anyway.
ReplyDeleteYour grandmother certainly stood out in the photo. Like my mother, she wore a very big hat.
Big hats must have been the fashion.
DeleteI wondered whether the lad was a railway worker, maybe from the coal yard which is was them.
In 1907, having photos taken was still a relatively new and rare thing, especially in public places such as this one. The surly lad would have been mostly curious as to the goings-on, and his pose and facial expression probably reflect what he thought of a group of respectable girls who would in all likelihood not socially interact with the likes of him, if they could help it.
ReplyDeleteIn any case, your Nanna really was a very pretty girl, and from your description, turned into a very decent woman. It's a shame she died so young.
She was lovely. It was devastating when she died. I always liked seeing her and remember her playing with me.
DeleteAs I say in previous response, the lad possibly did dirty unskilled railway work, and yes I think you are right that church goers would not have wanted to associate with them.
That's a wonderful collection of photos. So evocative of that time and place. You are lucky to have them.
ReplyDeleteI collected all but the first from internet sources over the years. They give contest to family history.
DeleteYour nanna was my mother's age! Those clothes were what my mom, no photos, used to describe. That generation endured WW1, the long Depression, then WW2. My parents died in their early 60s, and the doctor said a lot of their generation were dying young. He thought it was about stress.
ReplyDeleteTheir years were very hard. Now we all think it almost a right to live fit and active lives into our eighties, although not all will manage it. Their generation often did not get beyond their sixties.
DeleteOld family photographs are a treasure trove. They pose too many questions, though, which are unanswerable, not in your case, as you know the character and the area.
ReplyDeleteI am lucky that my dad lived into his eighties, by which time I was interested enough to listen to what he wanted to tell me about the photographs.
DeleteA fascinating glimpse into the past!
ReplyDeleteThings have changed very much now, but as I think more about it, I can picture it clearly, almost as if I lived through it. It was half a century before my time.
DeleteHow wonderful to have those old photos and to be able to know so much about their history.
ReplyDeleteAs replied to previous comment, all but the first are from online sources, but we have a lot of others, too. I find them fascinating.
DeleteI always find it interesting to see photos from around the time my mother was born (1909) in the UK. It is a reminder of just how much changed over the course of her lifetime--how she lived through two world wars--saw so much change. Experienced so much loss. Unlike your grandmother, my mother lived until she was 90, so my children remember her and the stories she shared. Now I look back over my three quarter's of a century and take into account all that has changed in my lifetime. From crossing the Pond on a ship, riding on steam trains to riding on the Eurostar, flying on prop planes to flying jet planes. From no computers to a using a smart phone that I think makes me less smart every day. Changes. Inevitable.
ReplyDeleteThere are parts of the UK that at first sight seem unchanged, and many that are obviously very much changed, but beneath all, the kind of things you mention make it a very different place. I suppose the same is true everywhere. It seems to have speeded up in the last 20 years.
DeleteThat's quite impressive, to narrow down the location so precisely. Fascinating snippets of history. I wonder what the modern Station Hotel flats are like?
ReplyDeleteTo be cynical, full of druggies.
DeleteI had an idea about the location, but it was rewarding to be able to show it beyond doubt.
They look so smart in their Sunday clothes and hats and practiced true Christian kindness.
ReplyDeleteA kinder world. Not as much selfishness and nastiness as now. Many more went to church and listened to its lessons.
DeleteHow I enjoyed this post! Your Nanna was indeed a beautiful woman. I read the post about her you linked and although sad, I'm sure it gave her much happiness to see you looking up to her waving. Her beautiful picture shows much love, intelligence, and kindness. You are fortunate to have those photos. I hope your children have a copy of your memories because even if not interested now, one day they will be interested. My oldest son
ReplyDeleteis in his fifties and only now showing a great interest in family history. I am trying to leave as much information about family history as I can along with photos. I have many old photos dating back to the late 1800s that I'm trying to scan.
Thank you for sharing such special information and photographs about your family.
Thank you for being interested. Scanning photos and leaving details is a time-consuming process, and you remember more as you do it. I hope you can leave all you know. I am so grateful my dad did.
DeleteThat is a remarkable collection to document firstly your Nanna and also the development of the place in which they had set up their charity work. In this digital age a lot of those sorts of social history photos will be lost, deleted or on unreadable tech relatively quickly by comparison to the longevity of developed prints.
ReplyDeleteExcept for the first, I have collected them over maybe 20 years from online sources, and yes, I imagine many have since been removed. However, being fairly isolated, the town has always had a strong sense of identity so I expect there will always be a lot around.
Deletelovely glimpse into your past and i really enjoyed the pictures..... and now your memory is indelibly etched on the surface of the itnernet for ever more (?) ...... thanks for sharing...... i have to admit, i didn't know about that poem..... i thought you'd wrote it!!
ReplyDeleteThomas Hardy, as YP says. He had a painfully strong sense of mortality and the human condition.
DeleteThat poem brought a chill to my own heart, considering the people I know, now long gone, who are slowly, person by person, ceasing to be a memory. I am a practical woman and this is exactly why I plan to be cremated, my ashes dropped in a hole, and a lilac bush dropped on top of me. My son said, "No marker?" I said no. In two or three generations, that marker will mean nothing to anyone. A lilac scented breeze will always mean something though, even if I do not.
ReplyDeleteThe full poem is indeed chilling when you think of the hundreds of thousands of generations before us.
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