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Friday, 17 January 2025

Record Box 1- Beethoven’s Symphonies

I have two boxes of vinyl LP records (Albums) which I have decided to sell or pass on, but I would like to remind myself of what is in them first. They bring back forgotten stories. Two boxes is not a huge number, some friends had shelves floor to ceiling, but I had a reel-to-reel tape deck instead. I do still have my Sansui record turntable, but it has been in the loft for 30 years, and no one here is likely to use it. The tapes are long gone, but the LPs remain. 

I spent my first five years after school as an Articled Clerk with the same employer. When I left they held a collection for a leaving present. What would I like? I asked for the Deutsche Grammophon boxed set of Beethoven Symphonies conducted by Herbert von Karajan, the definitive version of the day. It seemed an appropriate leaving present from a professional firm. 

But, you observe, that is not the von Karajan set pictured, it is Karl Böhm. When I took the von Karajan set home, I put on the Ninth Symphony which begins with a very quiet section, and was dismayed to be able to hear an intermittent high-pitched whistle in the background. The manager of the record shop could not hear it, but it was still clearly audible to me on his equipment. Now I am older, it is unlikely it would be, like the high-pitched cat scarers our neighbours have in their front gardens, which my daughter can hear but I can’t. 

The manager offered to exchange the records, but fearing that the van Karajan sets would all be the same, I asked for the Karl Böhm set instead. It was disappointing. You might think that Beethoven’s Symphonies are Beethoven’s Symphonies, and always the same, but that is not the case at all. Somehow, the Böhm recordings did not have the same sense of excitement, at least for me, and I have rarely played them. He performs them marginally slower and more stately. 

It taught me that conductors, performances, and recordings can be quite different. There used to be a programme on Radio 3 on Saturday mornings called ‘Building a Library’, which compared different recordings of the same classical pieces. I think it is now in the afternoon. The variation is astonishing. Some recordings are pretty poor alongside others. 

So it is with Beethover’s symphonies. My wife has a set of CDs on period instruments conducted by Roger Norrington. They are much too quick and bright for me. My current preference, from online sources, is Daniel Barenboim with the West-Eastern Divan Orchestra, which is made up of musicians from the Spanish world and the Middle East, including Israel and Palestine.

Here is a link to my favourite, the Sixth (Pastoral) Symphony, recorded in 2012. At 42 minutes long few may want to watch it through, and this YouTube version is broken by a couple of irritating adverts, but the balance and the way the different instruments and their solos are brought forward is, I think, absolutely superb. The video, of course, adds a dimension absent from stuffy 1970s recordings. The musicians look as if they are enjoying themselves, although the woodwind tend to show off a bit. Barenboim looks as impressively in command as ever. 

https://youtu.be/aW-7CqxhnAQ 

19 comments:


  1. It is surprising how much performances can vary when musicians are all playing the 'same' music. Interpretation is everything.

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    1. In the end it all comes down to personal preference.

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  2. The boxed CD set of Beethoven Symphonies which I have is conducted by John Eliot Gardiner and I like his version well enough.

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    1. I am only familiar with the few I mention, but it's a bit disappointing when you have one not to your preference. It's good that you like yours.

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  3. I thought Beethoven was a massive St Bernard dog in a 1992 comedy film. Haven't you got any Gerry and The Pacemakers in your two boxes... or possibly Lulu?

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    1. I am sure that your own performances of You'll Never Walk Alone and To Sir With Love are very different from Gerry's and Lulu's, although your versions of How Do You Do It and Boom Bang A Bang are indistinguishable from the originals.

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    2. You give me a feeling in my heart
      Like an arrow passing through it
      S'pose that you think you're very smart
      But won't you tell me how do you do it?
      How do you do what you do to me?

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  4. It is remarkable how different recordings of the "same" music are anything but the same. Just as attending a live concert of music can be so very different...where being surrounded by the sound and percussion of instruments played so intently and beautifully raises the hair on your arms and brings tears to your eyes. Though some music will bring me to tears no matter where I am--no matter what the format. Cathartic.

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    1. Cathartic is the right word. I like to listen to my favourite pieces without doing anything else at all, totally absorbed. Many people these days seem to have "background" music which I often think misses the point.

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  5. I have dipped into that Radio 3 Building a Library programme from time to time through BBC Sounds. As you say, there can be startling differences in interpretation of the works depending on conductor and orchestra. One episode that I enjoyed featured the Planets suite, it was fascinating to hear how Holst's interpretation compared to other conductors.

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    1. I noticed The Planets was a recent subject while I was writing this post. Must have a listen on iPlayer.

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  6. Each director has his own interpretation of a piece of music.

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    1. True, but it seems strange we have personal preferences for some over others, and they vary.

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  7. If my memory is right, my parents had the Deutsche Grammophon box set of Beethoven's symphonies, directed by Karajan. As far as I know, the set is still somewhere in my Mum's loft, or maybe in the cabinet half-hidden behind the settee where my Dad spent much of his free time with all his stereo equipment at hand.
    I have heard/seen different performances of the same pieces of (classical) music, and no two were ever the same. That's part of the appeal of live concerts for me.

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    1. I've not thought of it like that before - go to hear how XXX does it - but yes I think I agree with that.

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  8. Beethoven's 6th symphony was my mother's favourite. We even had a snippet played at her funeral.

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    1. It's a super piece of music, with many uplifting parts that would be suitable.

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  9. I am not familiar enough with classical music to be able to notice the difference. Where/how do you get rid of albums there? Is there a market for that there. We inherited a couple hundred albums in an old house. We gave them away. Ironically, to an Englishman who emigrated here.

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    1. I'm sure if you heard the Building a Library programme I mention the differences would be obvious. However, you would be more likely to build a bricks and mortar library!
      There seems to be a good second hand demand here of late, and an interest in retro vinyl. There are shops in many cities.

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